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symbolism is useful

How so? @Talin (edited)

It can be, but it's probably better to just remember that they're in your head and there's no good reason she can't access all that to begin with.

So then what about all the people who said they did it manually? @bduddy #Diana# @Beckett

it's somewhat difficul;t to describe. For simplicities sake i'll just say she found it easier to go through them and learn once she had the doors

I am unsure why they would do that, when there is no need to do it manually.

but the symbolism of the doors being there to begin with helped her go through them

Perhaps they did desire symbolism, perhaps they have a strange belief system that I disagree with on a personal basis. I cannot say for sure.

I haven't been keeping anything from her, per se. Although I never really "gave it to her" either

It seems like those people assumed such a thing needed to be done.

no, i just thought it was a good idea as a learning tool

I still have super invasive thoughts and sometimes even disgusting ones

11:53 PM

I always feel the need to apologise to her

she knows they're not you. She can understand intent.

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Even if some of them are of her?

Yes.

I always feel horrible thinking about her in that way

she might be throwing them at you intentionally. Emily did that for a while to kill my squeam

Wait what

various things made me uncomfortable in relation to her, so she'd send me thoughts about them till i got over it

Nathan.

11:58 PM

People have urges that aren't necessarily the best or kindest thoughts.

11:58 PM

The important thing is action.

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Hmm...

12:00 AM

So what do I do?

Show that you're aware it isn't what you actually want to do, if anything.

12:00 AM

Tell her that and be honest about it.

Just keep forcing, and don't let your thoughts upset you too much. I might reccommend looking into the app Headspace. it's a meditation app that can teach you some things about lettting thoughts be

I love her and I want to give her every experience I can

good

But not-- Not like this

12:04 AM

I saw a lot of people have been recommending headspace

it's a good app for some guided meditation

12:04 AM

not like what, Nathan?

Through my eyes

i don't follow

Sometimes I don't see things one hundred percent I feel like no matter what I'll have some influence on her view of the world Which I know I already do But there's some parts that I don't view so lightly

Everyone has a bias.

aye

Indeed.

Really the more you let it bother you, the more it will bother her

12:06 AM

give or take

Damn.

as long as you aren't abusive, she will love you and understand you much better than you understand yourself. So don't stress, Love, and believe

12:07 AM

everything will flow from there

Nathan - if you are really concerned about your own intrusive thoughts, there are two things I would recommend.

Yeah...?

First, as already discussed - keep in mind that she will be able to understand that it is your perception of the world and your own intrusive thoughts, and that after you think about them - you may not think the same way once you've had time to seriously consider it.

12:08 AM

Particularly if you are demonstrably uncomfortable about them.

12:09 AM

Second - I've mentioned this before. Try to learn to meditate.

Aye. There's a technique i learned about through Headspace that's called Side of the Road. Basically you don't try to interact with any thoughts, just let them run around and do whatever

That sounds like dissociating from those thoughts and considering them to just be thoughts - not necessarily ones you would have when strongly considering them, but letting them exist without specifically associating them with your own self.

They really, truly, don't matter, @Deleted User . I've never seen a tulpa say they were in any way affected by them.

that's accurate, Winter

Alright.

12:13 AM

Hah. I suppose I prefer more technical definitions.

fair enough

@bduddy #Diana# I'm just scared she'll get the wrong idea

12:25 AM

She knows my intentions, she knows who I am, what I am

She won't. they understand intent above all else (edited)

But still

then what's there to stress about?

If she knows who you are, you have nothing to worry about. And if it's that much of an issue, take the time to rationalize the situation, directing that towards your tulpa as well.

How?

i'm working through my own issues with myself personally. I have a fair whack of self loathing, and Em still loves me, if that reassures you at all

Through narration, Nathan.

But to explain what even I don't get a full grasp of is just...

12:28 AM

I dunno

The point is for you two to figure that out together, even if it feels one-sided at the moment.

Which it does

i really think you should look into meditation

12:30 AM

it'll help sort things out

Meditation was used for early guides. It's required, I believe.

Wish I knew that

it's not required, but it helps

aye

It's not required at all

It should be. It promotes focus.

They’re intrusive thoughts. It won’t impact her development negatively. You can try meditation to get rid of them, but it won’t mess with her development anyway unless you continue to stress about them

12:31 AM

That’s just my opinion anyway

not to get rid of them

12:31 AM

change your perspective of them

I see

12:31 AM

So it's affecting her development if I stress it!?

yes and no

12:32 AM

she feels your stress and it probably bothers her, but won't really negatively impact her development uunless it actively keeps you from forcing

Just remember that everyone has intrusive thoughts. It’s a natural thing that people have experienced at least a few times in their lives

12:32 AM

Mhm

It'll likely only affect your tulpa's development in that the time you're taking to focus on the intrusive thoughts takes away from dedicated sessions. If those come up, take a short break from forcing to refocus and get back into what you were doing.

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12:33 AM

^

12:33 AM

No wait

12:33 AM

I wish I could word it as good as you guys

12:34 AM

I'm the one getting the advice here

ha

Anyways

i'm just a wordy person Vincent